Since posting so many photos is prohibited, what is the maximum I can post without falling under the AI filter? So in the next reviews I will limit it to this maximum amount.
Hi @henriquemps , and sorry for the late reply.
You can easily reply in your own language. In Connect, at the end of each comment there is a small globe, which is used to activate automatic translation into our language.
In addition, being Italian, I will understand most of what you write.
Before going into the details of your questions, I think I need to clarify a few things. Every platform that hosts Users Generated Contents has rules. Rules that we confirm we have read, and accept, in order to register. Unfortunately, it often happens that those who register have not “really” read the rules, and consequently violate them without being aware of it.
In these almost 8 years as a Moderator, I have read the phrase “I have not violated any rules” countless times. Many of those who wrote it are no longer Local Guides. As a moderator, my goal is not to have Local Guides removed. On the contrary, my goal in pointing out errors is to make people understand the rules, so that those who have made mistakes can correct them. In this way, they will contribute better to Google Maps, and we will all benefit from this.
In Google Maps Eiffel Tower is an historical landmark, located in the city of Paris, France
Of course, since it is a very popular place, many users will post photos there, and they have every right to do so. This is very different from a single user posting many similar photos.
According to https://support.google.com/contributionpolicy/answer/7400114: “We do not allow the posting of repetitive content on Google Maps because it dilutes useful information Google Maps provides its users.”
In this conversation there are more Local Guides, and I took examples from the contributions of both, to explain the potential violations. In doing so I imagined that each one was able to recognize their own content. I confirm that I did not find images taken from the web in your images.
In fact in the title I wrote: Duplicate Across Locations
This is one of the most common mistakes, clearly prohibited by the Local Guides community policy: “Users who duplicate photos across locations … will be removed from the program”
There have been extreme violations, such as the door of a building that houses 20 different businesses posted 20 times, or the entrance of a Mall posted in all the stores in the Mall. This is such a common mistake, and one that leads to suspension from the program, that I wanted to dedicate a topic to it: Local Guides Tips: How to add “Located Within” in Google Maps
No, unfortunately this is not correct. The AI searches for prohibited content “inside” the image, but does not check if an image has been posted multiple times. I myself have had images of statues, taken inside a museum, blocked for “nudity”. I have raised this issue with Google since 2017, but unfortunately it has not been resolved yet.
As you can see I have already shown you several of them, and I have provided you with links to the pages where they are explained.
“A couple of months” = around 2 months
When a review is edited the date shown is that of the last edit. Since the appeal also has a date, everything that appears with a date more recent than the appeal will not be considered in the check.
These are the latest media you have uploaded. As you can see a video has been uploaded twice. I know that this often happens because Maps has suggested it to us, but in the end we are the ones who accept the suggestion. My advice is to often check what has been uploaded
Sorry for the long reply, but I hope this helped clear your doubts.
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Thank you for the detailed explanations @ErmesT it will help many of us! One more comment regarding your last quote:
I realized, it is very likely to overlook duplicates and redundant, unless we regularly, carefully track and watch all uploaded media under My Contributions on the desktop. In my opinion, doing so on the mobile is not very helpful.
In addition Google over and over encourages us to upload the same media we already did before (this has been discussed many times before here on Connect). For me, the only “solution” is to ignore those suggestions completely and follow up my own tracking for what I did upload.
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You can easily reply in your own language. In Connect, at the end of each comment there is a small globe, which is used to activate automatic translation into our language.
In addition, being Italian, I will understand most of what you write.
Before going into the details of your questions, I think I need to clarify a few things. Every platform that hosts Users Generated Contents has rules. Rules that we confirm we have read, and accept, in order to register. Unfortunately, it often happens that those who register have not “really” read the rules, and consequently violate them without being aware of it.
In these almost 8 years as a Moderator, I have read the phrase “I have not violated any rules” countless times. Many of those who wrote it are no longer Local Guides. As a moderator, my goal is not to have Local Guides removed. On the contrary, my goal in pointing out errors is to make people understand the rules, so that those who have made mistakes can correct them. In this way, they will contribute better to Google Maps, and we will all benefit from this.
I know there are rules and I aceppted it. If you can clearly explain to me which rule I’m breaking, I’ll stop doing it right away. But I ask, why do my other comments appear and the comment about the diving school doesn’t? Did I only break the rules in the diving school review? How is it the same as the other comments?
In Google Maps Eiffel Tower is an historical landmark, located in the city of Paris, France
Of course, since it is a very popular place, many users will post photos there, and they have every right to do so. This is very different from a single user posting many similar photos.
I disagree. The diving school is not as popular as the Eiffel Tower, I agree with that, but Google can post several photos from different angles of the Eiffel Tower and I can’t of the diving school, so I disagree. But why doesn’t Google delete the photos it finds similar and show my review?
According to https://support.google.com/contributionpolicy/answer/7400114: “We do not allow the posting of repetitive content on Google Maps because it dilutes useful information Google Maps provides its users. ”
So, Google has to delete the photos of the Eiffel Tower, because: According to https://support.google.com/contributionpolicy/answer/7400114: “*We do not allow the posting of repetitive content on Google Maps because it dilutes useful information Google Maps provides its users.
In this conversation there are more Local Guides, and I took examples from the contributions of both, to explain the potential violations. In doing so I imagined that each one was able to recognize their own content. I confirm that I did not find images taken from the web in your images.
Perfect. All Photos I took by my smartphone.
fact in the title I wrote: Duplicate Across Locations
This is one of the most common mistakes, clearly prohibited by the Local Guides community policy: “Users who duplicate photos across locations … will be removed from the program ”
There have been extreme violations, such as the door of a building that houses 20 different businesses posted 20 times, or the entrance of a Mall posted in all the stores in the Mall. This is such a common mistake, and one that leads to suspension from the program, that I wanted to dedicate a topic to it: Local Guides Tips: How to add “Located Within” in Google Maps
Is the Itanhaém sign on Itanhaém beach or next to Anchieta Bed? I was there, it belongs to both places.
No, unfortunately this is not correct. The AI searches for prohibited content “inside” the image, but does not check if an image has been posted multiple times. I myself have had images of statues, taken inside a museum, blocked for “nudity”. I have raised this issue with Google since 2017, but unfortunately it has not been resolved yet.
It is a very complicated situation, mainly because the AI did not visit Itanhaém, and also did not go to the diving school.
As you can see I have already shown you several of them, and I have provided you with links to the pages where they are explained.
There is no violation, only photos of places that I really went. I can prove it, I have the pictures.
“A couple of months” = around 2 months
No problem, I will wait patiently.
When a review is edited the date shown is that of the last edit. Since the appeal also has a date, everything that appears with a date more recent than the appeal will not be considered in the check.
So, if you want to really help me. Show me what I have to do for the diving school review to appear:
"Um Verdadeiro Mergulhaso
Gostaria de escrever um sincero elogio pelo atendimento e agradecimento a todos da equipe mergulhaso pela experiência quer tive hoje. Cheguei na loja e já fui muito bem atendido pelo David, que me explicou como funcionava o batismo e deu um panorama geral da experiência, fechei um mergulho de uma hora por R$ 450,00 mais um pacote fotográfico por R$ 100,00 com 45 fotos e 10 vídeos de alta resolução, que ficaram todas perfeitas.
Marcamos às 9 horas do dia seguinte. O mergulho é composto por um treinamento inicial passado pela instrutora Bruna, onde é apresentação uma visão geral das correntezas oceânicas da ilha e de como será feito o mergulho, uma explicação do equipamento que é composto por diversas partes, aprendemos também a respiração e expiração que é muito importante, técnicas para equalizar a pressão do ouvido e como expelir a água se caso entrar na máscara.
Em seguida nos é ensinado os sinais pois debaixo da água toda a comunicação é feita por gestos, para subir (joinha para cima), descer (joinha para baixo), sinal de Ok para informar que está tudo bem, mais ou menos é a mão bambeando, hang loose é tartaruga, fechar a mão igual italiano é cardume de peixes e o meu preferido, o sinal do tubarão que é uma cruz. Ao me familiarizar com o equipamento fui ensinado que os óculos do mergulhador devem estar no pescoço ao invés da testa, se estiver na testa não é do mergulhador e sim do mar pois a onda leva.
Essa parte do treinamento foi de suma importância para garantir uma experiência segura. Em seguida vesti o equipamento, tomei uma ducha nos fundos da loja e o caminho até o mar foi tranquilo, na orla da praia coloquei com a ajuda da Bruna um cilindro de 18 kg nas costas e um lastro com 10 kg na cintura, depois tivemos uma adaptação no raso por cerca de 5 minutos para treinar a respiração, quando me dei conta já estava submerso, é uma sensação incrível de tranquilidade e liberdade, conseguimos sentir na pele a gravidade zero, um instrutor te acompanha o tempo inteiro te segurando pelo cilindro, não é necessário ficar conferindo o manômetro nem sua profundidade pois ele faz isso para você, basta você apreciar o fundo do oceano. No mergulho vi algas, corais, centenas de peixes e até uma tartaruga marinha.
Foi uma hora inteira e incrível no fundo do mar sem voltar a superfície, onde a profundidade máxima chegou a 7 metros, uma das experiências mais marcantes da minha vida. Foi um verdadeiro batismo, obrigado a todos os profissionais da equipe de coração que me atenderam com muito bom humor e até ano que vem."
These are the latest media you have uploaded. As you can see a video has been uploaded twice. I know that this often happens because Maps has suggested it to us, but in the end we are the ones who accept the suggestion. My advice is to often check what has been uploaded
I don’t know how can it be possible, I recorded 1 vídeo and post 1 vídeo. I will delete one of those if I see duplicated. Done.
Sorry for the long reply, but I hope this helped clear your doubts.
Thank you.
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Hi @henriquemps , and sorry for the late reply.
I like your review, the only issue that I can find in there is the mention of the price, that can easily be misinterpreted by the filter. But I also see that you added 49 photos.
As a review is considered as a single block (text + attached media) if a single element of the review is filtered the whole contribution will be taken down.
A good practice, when writing a review, is to only attach a few media. If the review isn’t posted the first step is to remove the media, to see if the issue is with the text.
If without medias the review is published we can start to add more media, to discover if some of them is triggering the filter.
As every media will be checked to see if it’s against the rules, if you also add videos the publication may be delayed for hours, or even days, depending of the number of videos posted.
As you already appealed I suggest you to wait
No. The photos are posted by various users. What is not permitted is to post several similar photos for a single user
I did it already in my previous reply
Have a nice day, an please keep us informed when your review will be released
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there is the mention of the price, that can easily be misinterpreted by the filter
To my eyes, the price of the service is very important to anyone that wants to dive, I don’t know how google/gemini could think this is out of the rules. Anyway, I will listen you and remove the price right now. Thank you for the information.
But I also see that you added 49 photos.
As a review is considered as a single block (text + attached media) if a single element of the review is filtered the whole contribution will be taken down.
I reduce the photos and videos to 22. In my point of view, The longer and more complete the review, the more information about the dive I include, the more photos and videos, the more complete it will be for those who are reading and thinking about diving or not. But it seems that Google doesn’t think so, right?
A good practice, when writing a review, is to only attach a few media. If the review isn’t posted the first step is to remove the media, to see if the issue is with the text.
I already remove the media by half, look.
If without medias the review is published we can start to add more media, to discover if some of them is triggering the filter.
Withou anyone media, my review do not appear, belive to me. I try everything before start writing here in the forum.
No. The photos are posted by various users. What is not permitted is to post several similar photos for a single user
My brain can not understand what is the difference. I can not post 2 photos of Eifell Tower, but I can post 1 photo and you 1 photo, of the same angle. Very strange to my brain.
I did it already in my previous reply
Have a nice day, an please keep us informed when your review will be released
All right, I will wait the 2 months, as you oriented me.