Account got unbanned but remained stripped i.e. not fully re-instated (reviews/badges/likes etc)

@Carlos77 thanks for your time and energy you’re putting into your messages. I’m sorry your profile seems flagged again too. Seems like it never got reinstated fully, but just “caught up” through a manual intervention from Google Staff member, I guess?

@PaulPavlinovich

Thank for coming back to the thread and sharing this isn’t scripting by AI.

This worries me a bit though. Will Google Staff be able to help fix my account or is this neutral AI overpowered in that it will keep once flagged/suspended accounts in their hold permanently?

Seems clear to Carlos and my story that accounts that were checked and the suspension was lifted wasn’t really the case at all…like I mentioned earlier that reviews caught up again.

Also believe that because I typed another msg here regarding my badges which were left out after the suspension was lifted, somebody from Google Staff manually fixed this…? Seems odd that it wouldn’t all be back the way it was in one go.

I’m not Stephen, sorry. Though I’m not him I’m hoping you can still share more of whatever information you have regarding this and what we can do.

We just want to participate without issues again… It was also never made clear who flagged my account and why. Don’t want to go in a merry-go-round situation like I mentioned earlier.

Also if dates of reviews could NOT be altered to the new dates of reinstating that would help too. Clearly ppl the mix I be dates from original posting and showing up for views publicly is causing for scrutiny.

You know anybody else to tag possibly? Seems like InaS is too busy and don’t want to to tag her too much and get on her bad side :wink:

Thanks Paul :slightly_smiling_face:

Hi @Lordy_Lord I was asking because i know someone else who calls themselves lordy lord who is a Local Guide.

I cannot really share more about the way the algorithm works.

I can tell you that its possible you were flagged either by a person or by the AI. Either can happen. Once you get reviewed if your content is reasonable its not likely you’d get flagged again but I have seen it happen to some people. I myself got cleaned out twice and had to request a restore. It has not happened since then.

Even after restoration its possible not all reviews and images show for everyone. Maps chooses what content is most relevant to the person looking at the application at that time.

Paul

Paul

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Hi @PaulPavlinovich

Sorry for the slow response. Really got bummed out about this whole ordeal and needed a break.

Thanks for explaining a bit more about how this works… I’m still hoping I can talk to an actual person in the right department to fix this. Seems that since my last form-fill my reviews are still offline…

@InaS Could you please share some light on this again, or guide me towards a solution. This form-fill is clearly not doing much… I’d like to participate but this way it’s more of a drag than joy :disappointed:

There must be somebody you can get me in touch with regarding this. If there’s one person who keeps flagging me each time my reviews are reinstated this will be a perpetual loop.

If you filled out the form more than about six weeks ago then you’ve had a human review @Lordy_Lord - if the content stayed private, then that will have been a human moderator who made that decision. You could always fill out the form again but I don’t know that you would achieve anything.

Paul

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Hi @Lordy_Lord

happy new year!!!

I did another couple of tests for the last 2 month, in 3 different countries, that would be around 200 reviews since the last post.

I wrote reviews with some friends I was with and even with random people I met in the same restaurant, cafe or hostel I wanted to give a review.

So all of them were able to write a review that went immediately online, of course mine not. 3 of us wrote exactly the same words same stars, 2 of them went online, of course mine not. (They changed it afterwards, because same wording wouldn’t be allowed)

Another test, 4 of us wrote absolutely a simply review, simply wordings and nothing complex, all of them got published right away, except mine. It’s obviously that its not a problem with, what we’re writing or how many starts we’re give, it has absolutely something to do with our profile, as our test would be a proof for that. Needles to say, that we only wrote reviews, only for venues we really have visited. All devices were a mix of iPhones and androids, all of them had their timeline and accurate location turned on.

I also meet a guy who has similar problems like us reviewers in this forum and it tend to be that this one of the reasons, as more reviews your write and as higher your score are, as more likely it is you’re running into that kind of problem.

You profile will got flagged, by the algorithm or some random dude at google and from now on you will have these kind of problems, that needs to be reviewed manually by some google guy.

It’s obviously that this flagged profile could be somehow reversed from your profile,

why that is not a solution, only google knows. But maybe they wont give people a kinda wild card, to protect other reviewers, could be that the spam accounts get also smarter and they would use that as a flaw then.

So I think the solution that google is offering right now, filling out these forms are the smartest solution for them.

Cos it’s simply easier for them to just force you to give up, in doing most likely nothing, except filling out that form and hope that someone on googles side will release your reviews but not unflagging your profile instead.

Or they hope you will finally give up, because of this silly way of solution, writing reviews that won’t be published at all and filling out forms every month to hope your work got published at the end.

I think because of the amount of people who are singing up to be a reviewer, there is also a constant flow of new participants and as long as your account is fresh, your reviews got published all the time, doesn’t matter how silly your reviews are. I checked a lot of reviews and some are clearly against the google policy, some are absolutely personal and some are totally silly.

I also talked to a lot of reviewers on my travels, and some have similar experience and knowledge, some did a bit more testing then me, cos that’s more in a grey area, of course its against the google rules and no one should do that.

I won’t do either, just sharing my experience.

So I think at some point the google AI got to aggressive with flagging accounts, and it would cost google to much resources and time, to fine tune the AI that it could work in a better way.

Because in the same way it flags innocent accounts, it will also flag accounts who deserve a ban. So the percentage might be higher in a good way for google, so they won’t change it, because that would mean more spam accounts again.

So they come up with that easy solution, force people to contact a google moderator, which worked at the beginning very good. Until they realized there is also a more cost less way to address that problem with the form, less resource binding.

People who will give up on the way, which is totally understandable, because what sense would it made to write reviews that never got published and only if you’re lucky after you filled out a form. This one would also be a solved problem for google, no tickets anymore and if it’s just a few people, compare to the bigger mass of people, so google can still afford it.

And even then, does every month a google guy will read through all your 100 reviews you wrote the last month? And it’s also a human failure possibility, this guy would let go though all your reviews, the next one won’t. And what if that google guy has a friend who has a shop you gave a bad review, would he publish your review? Everywhere where you have humans that is a possibility of work against the best interest of the participants.

And last but not least, it’s pretty much like, never address the problem and find a solution for that issue it’s only put a bandaid on the problem. Is that the new google way?!? Why not simply saying you have a problem, you won’t fix it? Unflagging is not an option? Anything would be more helpful, then let people in the dark and pretending it’s not a problem there.

Our tests proof, that there’s really something wrong with our profiles or the AI or even the human who’s doing their job or not?

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Hi @Lordy_Lord

needless to say, i filled out the form twice and nothing has happend, in the meantime I wrote more then 200 reviews in 3 different countries in the last 2 month, guess what no one can see my reviews, but my picture they could see, that I put in my reviews.

because it’s so fun I will fill out a form later, it’s already time, not that someone could unflag my profile what be a too easy solution;)

Hi @Carlos77

Thanks for your message again.

It’s hard to know what;s going on when we are being left in the dark like this.

All I know is this isn’t doing mental health any good… really hoping this will get sorted still. Don’t want to accept it’s just a big middle finger.

If it turns out there’s this small % of high level reviewers who are stuck in the AI re-flagging module then I’d prefer to know this so I can choose what to do. As it is now I am still in the impression things can get fixed and this merry-go-round could cease and things would be back to normal.

I really want to share my experiences with places and food etc… it feels wrong I’m not allowed to. Again, this shows in my overall feeling of well-being. Not being allowed to participate and being shunned is one of the worst feelings…

@InaS please, let me know who I can call or email to fix this… or please reach out to a department that can inform you, or me… Just need to clarification more than anything.

Thanks

Chris

Hi @InaS hope you’re doing ok. It’s been some time now since your last response. Can’t help but feeling ignored/ghosted (which would be less bad than if you’d have something happen making you unable to work of course)

Please tell me what’s what and who I’m able to reach out to to stop this merry-go-round. I’ve got reviews and photos of holidays and experiences nearby I’d like to add, edit and share but it’s pointless atm…

Hope to hear from your thanks :pray:t2:

Hello @InaS

My account it’s reviews got activated again, no two days later my new reviews are AGAIN not showing up when left…

WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!?! Some company who got a 1 star review is clearly flagging/reporting me. This is NOT fair it keeps happening again and again! It’s also clear all my reviews get readded as ‘fresh’ reviews, seeing suddenly got replies on some reviews I left years and years ago, on the same day.

Where else can I go and get help?! This filling in the form every 2 months is not the way, clearly not the answer :disappointed:

Don’t stonewall me please, help me figure this out. I’m not the only one with this issue.

Best regards

Chris

Hi @Lordy_Lord ,

Thank you for reaching out and tagging me. Please fill out the form again for your missing reviews. We will forward your request to the responsible teams to look into your account. If your contributions follow the policies, they will be reinstated.

I would suggest you take a look at this post, An update on how we moderate Google Maps reviews if you haven’t checked it out already.

@Hello@ @InaS

I’ve already filled in the form, again, just before I left me precious message

I’ve also read the rules before. This is nothing new… there’s something amiss somewhere and I’d like somebody to tell me what it is. This is clearly a revolving door problem.

I’m not doing anything wrong from with my reviews or photos… your reply was the same as in the start of this thread, it wasn’t the solution unfortunately.

Could you please give me some more/new help or get me in touch with somebody who had deeper access who can permanently fix this problem?

Waiting another 2 months for my account to work properly for 2 days doesn’t seem the way to go… There’s a reason this keeps happening and request somebody delve into WHY my account keeps getting reflagged e.g. who is doing this.

Thanks for your reply :pray:t2:

Best regards,

Chrjs

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Hello @Lordy_Lord

I’m also back in the googlemaps review prison;)

It’s getting ridiculous, I mean it already was before, let me share my new discovery I had in the last 6 month.

I did a longer trip in Central America and like all the others, who already got placed in the googlemaps review jail, knows that some

reviews get published right away but most of them won’t.

I don’t need to mention, that this wasn’t always like that and thats also not the way it should work at all. But once flagged you will experience this kind of behavior.

And you always need to fill out the form, which is already ridiculous, because it would be easier to simply unflagging your profile.

Which the first lvl support obviously can’t do, they just work through their cases and eventually release your reviews.

The reason why I write this is because, I was unflagged by some administrator at some certain point of time or someone who has more user rights then a first level supporter would have, maybe also someone who has the right skill set to do so. Which I will explain later, because I also have the feeling that this could be related to the separation of the different it departments in bigger companies.

As I already mention above I was traveling through Central America with my travel buddy, which is also good, because he can check the status of my reviews, I mean everyone can with a google profile.

Like always some reviews get published right away and some won’t, pretty much like always. So I simply life with that issue and would fill out that silly form to let release my reviews at the end of the month.

After 6 month of traveling I arrived finally in Mexico and I realized that all my reviews got published right away. I did a lot of test to be 100% sure and checked around 100 reviews I wrote during that time, every single one of them and right after I published it. Surprise surprise, my profile was acting like it should be, like a fresh fully functional profile.

Back in the US I spend a month in NY and LA and I wrote since the last time more then 380 additional reviews.

All of them, every single one, gut published right away. I also spend a month in Germany so no problems at all with every single review I wrote so far.

Now I’m in Vietnam since a month and the problem has started again, I do have a backlog of reviews off around 80 or so. Of course already filled out that beautiful form to give some work to the first level department, of course everyone needs some work after all;)

I don’t know, what lastly triggered the google algorithm again, but something has, maybe the reason why I’m skipping countries basically every month. Which shouldn’t be a big problem, cos google knows everything and are tracking everything, so that should be Ok. They already know exactly where I’m, where I travel to and reside of any time of the day.

So I really wish that the miracle could happen again and this awesome knight could unflagging my profile again, so it could work like it should be.

I’m the living proof that this is totally possible after all.

It feels like this form request and the moderators around here are just there for filter all the requests, the real deal are hiding behind this human firewall.

It’s pretty much the same like when your profile got banned and it got reinstated, you can write reviews again but your access to this forum will be blocked due to user rights issue, which the error message is also telling you, when you try to sign in.

If you ask the support, that’s the one who are the first level supporter, do not have the right user rights and knowledge to fix that problem. (You can check this in this forum, you will find a lot similar cases) they suggest all the standard procedures which a first level supporter would always do, which could help in some cases, but 98% of the time it won’t.

Do they have a knowledge base like bigger companies do, something like confluence or even jira, certainly not?…Anyways if you find the right admin, which I did the last time, they will fix your user right problem in a second and you can login in easily again.

What I wanna say with this is, that the right people with the right user rights are the administrator we need to reach to really fix that problem ones and for all.

And it’s like in every company there’re people who really know their stuff and people who just simply breathing oxygen.

I will write another threat about a bug I found, which gives you an unlimited amount of points. You can do it over and over again, of course you will and should be banned for that, but the reason you can do so is another proof that the different it departments are too separated to really fix or address any problem.

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There is a new function for every spot on googlemaps you can answer a set of questions, which give your points at the end. Some of the questions are always the same, doesn’t matter which spot you will choose.

You can even answer question for spots you have never been to.

But the worse thing is, you can answer always the same questions for the same spot as much as you want. You can repeat it until your battery drains and you will get points for that.

So first there should be some security measure’s in place to prevent people to exploit this bug.

And also for all the other reviewers who maybe write a lot of reviews and then maybe can’t remember that they already have answered the questions for that specific spot.

For myself I mostly write a bunch of reviews at the end of the day or sometimes even after a week, so that will be most likely 20-40 reviews depends on my travel plans.

And then maybe you answer questions for a spot you already have answered a 20 reviews before…

Hi @Carlos77 ,

Thanks for your msg here again. (The second reply about the bug seems out of place, I’m not a point-hunter either so not much of interest, maybe indeed open a new thread for thay issue ;))

Could you share your admin who helped out with unflagging you? It seems my account just gets reflagged instantaneously each time. Probably by companies getting my 1 star review “again”, seeing them as new reviews which they’re not. Already got called out being a hacker because the dates of reviews being left don’t match up (unflagged then reposted on that unflag-date with the time saying # years ago).

Nothing seems to be done and just somebody new each time reviews my case and it just perpetuates.

@InaS please re-move this back to the original section of the forum. This is NOT a general discussion. My problem hasn’t been solved at all.

To be more clear on this. I’ve noticed in the past few times my.profile had been briefly reinstated that not all photos have been. More over most photos of my holidays and travels haven’t. Some had been the primary photos of a place for quite a while and got.many views. I want my photos reinstated too and would like to know why these haven’t beent in the past. Please reply on tjist.

Yes I have filled in another form. Also now only for the photos, to be sure this is looked into.

Don’t ignore this please, if you can’t help let me know who can (if need be send a private message with ways to contact such department or person).

It’s almost going to a year now this is going on and it’s affecting my personal wellbeing causing stress and tension to name a few things.

Await your reply for some help in this (and the moving back of this thread, because that way maybe somebody will help and not see this as a discussion, which it isn’t!)

Thanks,

Chris

@InaS hi, it’s still happening.

Reviews are still not being posted AGAIN after leaving them.

Also my thread hasn’t been moved back from general chat it seems…

Please don’t ignore me, it’s getting very frustrating, as you might imagine.

Give me some other channel to get this seen to if you can’t help. PM me an email address, phone number or something.

At least reply that you don’t care so I know you’ve read this. Thank you.

Regards

Chris

Hello @Lordy_Lord

I send you a PM with the email address, please keep me posted if you find out something new.

I will do the same;)

@InaS

One simple questions remains: if person 1 writes 20 reviews for 20 random venues (of course all visits were legit) and non of them got published.

But 5 other people are doing exactly the same and all of their reviews got published right away, wouldn’t you agree that there is something odd is going on with the google maps account of person 1?!?

And that’s exactly what the problem is with our google maps accounts, that would suggest our profiles are somehow flagged or whatever google is doing in the background or how would you explain these issue?!?

The solution to use the form is one way to address these kind of problem, but I think the intention from google was to help people who have problems with a couple of their reviews and not like all of them and like always.

I’m not sure if anyone from the support team really understood what the real problem was right from the beginning?!?

Or maybe everyone on the google team understands very well what the problem is, but can’t help or want anyway!!

Just to clarify the situation, when I started to write google maps reviews a couple of years ago, I could write whatever I want as much as I want (of course all within the google maps rules) and everything got published right away.

Then I had these problems at least for around 15 month, of course with account ban and reinstating my account without finding any wrongdoings on my side, it was a mistake they said (I have the email if anyone want to see) and then a couple of months later with lots of writing here, from one day to another my account was free again as it should be, but that lasted only for a couple of month, now I’m back in the silly carousel of reviewers jail.

So maybe someone could explain why non of our reviews got published and I mean really non of them, I could write 100 reviews in a row and non of them will got published.

thanks for your time

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@InaS Move my thread back to the section it should be in please, this is an ongoing issue needing attention, not some general chat.

I’ve sent a PM but you even ignored that… why?!!

Calling in support from somebody else seeing you are not human enough to reply any more, thanks!

Please could any of you help out regarding my problem which I’ve been trying to fix FOR A YEAR NOW. Getting to tears now…

@TraciC / @DeniGu / @AngieYC / @MashaPS / @Ivi_Ge

A number or email for the department who can finally fix this, if you can’t, would be helpful to say the least! :pray:

Thanks,

Chris

Hi @Lordy_Lord ,

We would kindly ask you to fill out the form every time you notice your reviews/photos are private. Please allow a minimum of three weeks from the submission of the form for the relevant teams to do their investigation. Rest assured that they check everything. Thank you for your patience.

@InaS You must be joking.

THIS FORM IS CLEARLY NOT HELPING!!!

All my reviews keep getting blocked, you also blatantly ignore parts of my previous message, why?!

I don’t know what happened now but now ALL my new reviews are instantly blocked, stating:

“This review doesn’t follow our content policies. If you think this is a mistake, you can appeal this decision.”

This is a complete crock, seeing some are just stating a place is nice or has friendly staff…

Again I request to MOVE this thread back to where it’s supposed to be and to give me some number or email to get in touch with someone who can fix this issue.

Thanks

Hi @Lordy_Lord ,

Local Guides who contribute in Europe may be receiving notifications for unpublished reviews with the option to appeal the removal. You can appeal the removal decision using the link in the email if you feel that your review adheres to the policies and was incorrectly unpublished.

If you have submitted an appeal, please wait until you hear back from the team before editing your review. Otherwise, the appeal will be canceled.

The Maps teams are working hard to improve the moderation systems and each appeal helps them to make them better.

Thank you for your understanding.