Avoid uploading duplicates and similar pics

This is part 15 of 19 in the Storefront Photography Series. Click/tap here to see the Series Index.

This week I will explain 3 photo guideline violations that some of the best Google Maps photographers are not aware of.

Uploading duplicates across locations

The image above shows both a goldsmith and an Indian restaurant. Both businesses are clearly visible in the frame. So, some Local Guides mistakenly upload such an image to both pins: both the Goldsmith and the Indian restaurant.

Doing so is a clear violation of the photo guidelines: “Users who duplicate photos across locations … will be removed.” This is a quote from the Community policy. Breaking this rule can get you removed and not just the photos.

A parallel example can be seen in the image below. This door is the entrance to 4 different businesses. You can see 4 signs and 3 mailboxes. Uploading this image to more than one of the businesses can get you in trouble.

Uploading the same photo repeatedly to the same location

The following quote is from What photos should I share on Google Maps? posted on Connect by Google moderator MoniV:

“Do not upload duplicate photos. Sharing the same photo more than once on one location […] is a violation of our rules and policies and may result in your removal from the program.”

We are frequently prompted in the Google Maps app to upload photos to places on Maps. Because the prompts do not know if we have already uploaded them, these suggestions could act as a trap to upload duplicates. If you are unaware of this, you may unintentionally upload duplicates. To be safe, I have decided to always disregard such prompts.

Were you aware of this?

I think Google could do a better job at preventing duplicates from being uploaded.

Near duplicates

Also, similar photos should not be uploaded to Google Maps. Quote from the Community policy: “Dark, blurry, and redundant photos will be removed.” The term “redundant” means unnecessary repetition or similar.

When we get excited about some delicious food, a brilliant sight, or a pretty storefront, we naturally tend to take a lot of photos. We might take pictures of the same dish from different angles. This is perfectly normal and okay. What is not okay is to upload them all to Google Maps. We should only upload the very best photo.

But how do we decide if an image is near-duplicate, redundant, or too similar?

It is all about being helpful to Maps users. If a Maps user wants to see some details, they can zoom in and investigate. So there is no need to upload more zoomed-in images. Many Maps users find it annoying to have to browse past several images that contain no additional and valuable information.

The following examples are shared courtesy of Raphael Mahumane.

Only the first of the two images shown above should be uploaded to Google Maps. Just zooming in makes the second image redundant.

Three of these four images are redundant. Which one to upload is up for debate. #2 has slanted vertical lines, and in #4 the restaurant name is off-center.

Always avoiding near-duplicates can be very challenging. We don’t get points for images we don’t upload, so asking ourselves what would be most helpful to Maps users should be the guiding principle and not our desire to earn points and levels. Ideally, we could also take into account what photos are already uploaded by others. If a dish or angle has already been shared multiple times we should consider not sharing such images. Try finding something unique and notable to share in your shots.

I aim to always delete near-duplicates while still on the photo walk. Alternatively, as the first thing when editing my photos.

And by the way, by uploading more images to a place your average number of views per image will go down. This is a metric that some Local Guides cherish.

Deciding which image to upload

Taking several shots is great, and then deciding which one is the best one = is the one to upload. This can be decided later when you have time to reflect and study the details. As a fun quiz and discussion starter I have shared 7 storefront photos below. They are all showing the same Supermarket called Netto. Please take a few moments to study them to decide which one you would upload. They are all good images, but only one should be uploaded to Google Maps. Which one?

Some aspects to consider:

  • How much of the surroundings would you include?
  • How important is it to show the store name big, clear, and centered?
  • As the horizon is not level in one of the shots I doubt it will become the cover photo
  • Avoid distractions blocking the view of the store name
  • The current cover photo might give you some hints as to what the AI prefers.

Let me know which one you’d choose in the comments. Next week, I’ll discuss the pros and cons of each of the seven images in another reply below.

Cheers

Morten

PS: Next week’s post will feature some really stupid mistakes Maps Photographer should avoid repeating.

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Re: Quiz

@MortenCopenhagen I like #1, but in some ways #3 might be the correct answer.

Hi @tony_b

Thanks for reading all my Storefront posts.

I will share my followup shortly.

Cheers

Morten

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Thanks for the warning about duplicates. A lot depends on “how” we reach Maps on any particular occasion. It is not just the Google prompts that you mentioned. Sometimes I take an impromptu photo and immediately tap Share > Add to Maps > Choose where these photos were taken > … Then I select the place name where the photo is to be added. This of course does not involve a visit to the location on Maps to see what was already uploaded by me or anyone else.

I admire your constant references to “photo walks” and your very deliberate efforts to curate what you finally upload later, but that’s just not my modus operandi. Striving to do better though.

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Solution

Here are my thoughts on the 7 images:

I like #1 because the old windmill is included. This is an important local landmark helping people to understand the location of the supermarket.

I would not choose #2 due to the tilted horizon. It looks sloppy to me. I have a horizontal level shown as an overlay in my camera together with the gridlines.

#3 looks a bit deserted. Not many people. I think people are okay at this distance since the faces are not recognizable.

In #4 and #5, the light pole is blocking the store name and the store name is not centered in these 2 shots. So I would avoid uploading these two.

#6 has moving doors, but a very dark shadow covers some of the fruits and vegetables on the right. However, the cloud reflection is stunning. This is an excellent candidate, but I believe #1 is slightly more useful because the windmill is included in the shot.

#7 has a nice depth and the dark shadow is less of a problem. The man with the blurred face adds some life to the photo. So I would pick this image or #1 as @tony_b suggested above.

Cheers

Morten

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@MortenCopenhagen thank you for the insightful post! Two questions came to mind while I was reading it.

  1. I thought I had read previously that deleting photos can negatively impact your hidden reputational score or trigger a shadow ban. Any truth to this? I’ve also noticed on my profile that there’s a discrepancy between photo counters and I fear this could be a potential metric for the algorithm to falsely flag my account.

  2. Do you believe the AI truly preferred the current cover photo (featured photo) or do you think it was chosen arbitrarily?

It’s been my anecdotal experience that the AI can distinguish between interior, exterior, and food but when it comes to selecting an exterior featured photo, composition is neglected. I have seen numerous examples where well curated photos of many Local Guides have been disregarded for obviously poor, blurry photos.

I 100% believe your post is beneficial to humans, I just personally question how smart the algo really is and how best to satisfy it.

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Hi @photoslinger

Thanks for your comments and questions.

  1. It is the other way around. If you remove duplicates and redundant photos your profile is more safe from getting suspended or kicked out. I know this from experience from helping others and from reading the photo guidelines.

  2. Cover photos are selected to represent the places well. So yes, I’m pretty sure it is doing a great job. But sometimes it does make a bad choices. (especially when not choosing one of my clicks :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: ). Try studying photo contributions lists sorted by views, and I believe you will reach the sane conclusion.

For more on this please study post #10 and #11 in my Storefront Photography series found here.

  1. Yes, low quality photos rarely get selected as the cover photo. I think the issue is more that too few Local Guides share exterior shots that are helpful to new visitors wanting to find the places for the first time.

Feel free to follow up with more questions.

Cheers

Morten

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@photoslinger

I took a lok at your photos. Generally very good and well lit images.

But if you want to get more views (especially a higher average number of views per photo) you need to stop uploading do many redundant photos as discussed in this thread. I think you are uploading typically 2-4 images that are basically showing the same storefront or building. The angle or zoom is changed a bit, but they are redundant.

I’m not concerned that many of your images are hidden.

Have you joined the leaderboards? I think you will like it.

Cheers

Morten

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@MortenCopenhagen

Thank you for the compliment! I briefly browsed your series and I’m overwhelmed with the amount of good information you’ve compiled. Glad I stumbled upon it.

I’ll work to trim my uploads to reduce redundancy and increase contextual variety.

And yes the leaderboards have been great. My primary motivation is still trying to increase the quality of cover photos in Google Maps. There’s some really poor quality and outdated cover photos out there!

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@photoslinger

Thanks.

I think you will like the next and last post in the series. Going live on Saturday.

Best of luck improving the cover photos in your area. It is a challenge well worth persuing.

Cheers

Morten

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@MortenCopenhagen thanks for your valualbe post.

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Hi Morten,

first of all thank you for this insightful article.

I would go for pic #1 as well and Im really impressed by your clicks per pic I mean really.

Amazing & great job.

A question from my side to you if you dont mind. Because around 140 auf my approx. 450 Google maps entry are changed to “private” as a other user told me. So I started an account revision 3 days ago. Do you have expericance how long does this take? I guess it was written 15 days.

Best Stefan.

Stefan

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You’ve made an excellent point, @MortenCopenhagen , that if a viewer wants details, they can just zoom in. I hadn’t thought about that. I feel, though, that sometimes the algo is looking the detailed shot rather than a broad view. Say I’m taking a photo of the full produce section in a market. Yes, someone could zoom in to see the product, but there could be value in also showcasing a particular item that is noteworthy. Do you disagree, is that duplicating a photo?

As far as your photo choices, I would say that #1 AND #7 are worthy posts and I would likely post both. #1 highlights the accessibility of the shop. The proximity to the parking lot, the lowered sidewalk at the crosswalk, and the general ease of access to the store. #7 gives a highlight to products, the entrance accessibility in detail, and seems a better feature of the store itself.

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Hi @StefanTrauth

It would be very helpful if you would use the tagging tool when replying to someone here on Connect. Type @ followed by the username. Type slowly. Then we get an e-mail notification and you are more likely to get a prompt reply. Just hitting Reply does not ensure we get notified by email.

Because you did not tag me I only saw your message now.

The wait can be several weeks. I’m between close to 3 months waiting. It is quite frustrating.

Cheers

Morten

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Hi @JustJake

I don’t have a clear answer re adding both an overview and a detail shot.

But, I am a sucker for a high average number of views per photos, and that is why I rarely add more than a single image to each pin.

That is also why I would only add one image of the Netto supermarket.

All the best

Morten

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@MortenCopenhagen You didn’t actually advise on what would be a “correct” way to deal with the two situations you outlined at the beginning of this thread.

  • Crop left to post the right side business? Crop right to post the left side business?
  • I also have experience of being a client of more than one business accessed via the same entrance door. How do we give each their own deserved place on the map?

Hi @tony_b

A sneaky answer to your second question is to take different shots. Here is an example from my latest photo walk:

This image was uploaded to https://goo.gl/maps/1HuobmWoHnD9PHRN7 which owns the top blue sign.

And this image was uploaded to https://goo.gl/maps/NS53bjF7d9Fh6Cqb8 which is the white sign just under the blue sign.

This is not a great solution, and these boring images did not become cover photos.

Cheers

Morten

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Hello again, @tony_b

Regarding your first question:

Crop left to post the right side business? Crop right to post the left side business?

If you are referring to the image of the goldsmith and the Indian restaurant in one photo, I believe the correct solution is to go back and take two separate photos rather than having 2 businesses in one shot. This will allow you to center each business horizontally and get sufficient cropping space on both the left and right sides.

If this is not possible, I think I would crop the image to center the Goldsmith, since there is definitely not enough cropping space to the right of the Indian restaurant to make a landscape photo. And I would check if the back photo has more cropping space on the right side.

Conclusion:

Always focus your Maps photos on one business only.

Always ensure plenty of cropping space both the left and right of storefronts.

All the best

Morten

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@MortenCopenhagen ,

I chose image #6 because I thought it would crop well and gave emphasis to the storefront. Not being aware the landmark nature of the windmill. On a photo walk I agree that one photo is best. If I am going into a business I add at least one interior (often 2 or 3). My storefronts seem to get the most views, but in many cases the interiors do almost as well; but it is hard to predict which ones will be valued. What I have been doing lately is going back to the photos a week or two later and deleting the ones that have not gotten very many views in comparison to the others.

The “add your photos” prompt is definitely problematic and I am in the process of finding and removing duplicates. When I am shopping I will often take photos of merchandise or bar codes for my own reference. Before I really thought about quality over quantity, I didn’t hesitate to post these when prompted.

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Thanks @MortenCopenhagen Good answers to both questions.

Appreciate it.

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