Handle with care: Changes in the Road Editor and how to handle them

As I wrote in my previous post, a few days ago there was an important change in the Road Editor for Desktop: Submitted by Someone Else.

For further details, I refer you to the aforementioned post, but to summarize, currently pending edits made by others are also displayed in the editor.

Pros: this allows us not to waste our time, avoiding overlapping our edits with those already made.

Cons: When there are many pending edits made by others, loading the page can take a few minutes

I spent some time experimenting with it and eventually discovered some other changes related to the display of pending edits:

  • The orange dotted lines can now be clicked with the mouse. When we click on it all the lines connected to the edit become blue. This allows us to understand the size of the edit, and by observing it we can draw conclusions which I will talk about later.
  • When a pending edit is selected (blue dotted lines) in the left part of the editor we can see all the editing actions done in that specific addition/modification of a road.
  • When a pending edit made by someone else is selected, we can clearly see if it interferes with existing roads or other edits

Well, if you’ve read this far, especially if you’re a passionate Roader, now’s the time to sit down and pay attention.

Reporting a pending edit made by someone else

  • When a pending edit made by someone else is selected, you can report it. Yes, you read that right: you can report it.
  • What happens when you report it? “The edit will be hidden from everyone on Maps” is what the message says. In fact the selected pending edit disappears, and the editor become fast again
  • Is this action reversible? Apparently not.

Well, these are the facts, and I think you can now understand the meaning of the title. The following are my considerations (no insight from Google).

Now we know: Until a few days ago we were unaware of the edits made by someone else. We obviously knew that there was a possibility that more than one person would make edits in the same roads, and maybe sometimes we even saw that our pending edits were suddenly overlapped with [approved] edits made by others. Now that we know this, we must carefully consider some things that could lead to errors.

  • Let’s avoid tracing roads that intersect with pending ones. The result would be two roads that intersect without being connected. For more details you can read: Editing Roads Tips and Tricks - 1 - Bridges, Underpasses and Overpasses. The situation here is exactly the same, although one of the streets was not designed by us
  • Let’s avoid trying to attach new paths to the pending ones made by someone else. They would not hook up, as mentioned in the previous point.
  • Let’s be very careful if we want to report an edit as inappropriate. This is not written anywhere (I hope Google will do it soon) so at the moment I stick to the general Maps rules, which say that a user can be penalized if his contributions, including edits, are not appropriate. Therefore do not report an edit made by someone else just to make it disappear and therefore be able to add our roads in place of someone else’s. Also, don’t report an edit made by someone else just to make the editor load faster.

How I behave:

Precisely to avoid sanctions, I study the edits made by someone else and divide them into four categories:

  • Correct and acceptable
  • Valid but probably not acceptable
  • Valid but certainly not acceptable
  • Wrong or fraudulent

After evaluating them I decide how to act

Correct and acceptable

I consider correct and acceptable an edit that is simple, consistent with the roads I see with the satellite and which is not overlapped with existing roads. In this case I don’t do anything. Sometimes I don’t even realize that it is an edit made by others. Since I make a lot of them, I often think it’s made by me.

Valid but probably not acceptable

This is an edit consistent with the roads we see from the satellite, but very complex, like the one in the first image of this post. It is a type of edit like the ones I did at the beginning of the Road Editor, when a human operator evaluated them, but which are no longer approved since the preliminary evaluation was transferred to an AI. The author of those edits probably never read my post 3000+, and counting. My tips for adding roads in Google Maps. Even if in my opinion that edit will never be approved I have no reason to report it because it is technically correct

Valid but certainly not acceptable

This is an edit like the one in the previous point, technically correct. However, in this case other edits, which overlap with these, were then accepted. This makes that edit unacceptable, because it would generate overlapping duplicate roads. Below you see an example. In the right box, approved roads are highlighted overlaying the pending ones. In the left box, a small edit of mine is highlighted, added when this new improvement had not yet been activated. I reported that edit as it will never be accepted. After I reported it, it disappeared.

Wrong or fraudulent.

This is easy, these are completely senseless edits. It happened to me two or three times: long straight lines crossing the map, passing over roads, houses, villages. Senseless lines perhaps made by some gamer, which have no sense of existing and slow down the loading of the page. I report them back without hesitation. You see an example in the third image of the post, and another here below.

Thanks for reading

I hope this news is as exciting for you as it is for me, and I hope you’ll share your experience, or even just your concerns, in the responses below.

Happy Mapping

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This is a lot to take in @ErmesT I will have to reread it he morning when I am more awake. Thanks Ermes.

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Thank you @ErmesT for sharing another helpful feature in detail. The post is very informative.

Edited: After reading your post, I have checked and noticed the blue dotted lines, but i have not done any editing. I will share my experience when I work on the blue dotted lines. I agree with you, as you said, we should handle with care.

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Thank you @ErmesT ji for sharing this post, Handal with Care , post is Giving very knowledge full information about Road Reporting or edition of Roads, This will help people to Navigate more effective on Google map and real world . :pray:

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Hehe, good night, @TerryPG

I told you, this is something you have to read carefully.

It is a very important improvement, but needs to be clearly understood

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Thank you @PrasadVR

Yes, we must be careful before to report other’s work. Most of the time the intentions are good, even if maybe they need to grow a bit

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Thank you so much for the feedback, @RaviSharma111

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Thank you, @ErmesT . I have only had to report a couple of edits so far, thankfully. It is still a bummer when I lose an editing spot because the loading time is just too atrocious to work with. Since these small, incremental changes are coming out in short order, I think there’s a bigger plan year that could be announced when the project is complete. The problem for Google is that we’re too attentive and curious for these kinds of step-by-step rollouts :joy: .

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Fully agree, @JustJake

I will not surprised if soon we will be able to delete, or even modify, some of our own pending edits. Actually I have a lot of duplicates, probably due to the fact that more than a Local Guide added roads own the same location.

In three months we will for sure be able to see the impact of the changes on our contributions, with probably less removal of pending edits due to overtime.

I know, a lot of “probably”. Speaking frankly I think that we are just teaching the AI, that in a couple of years will be able to detect the missing roads and to add them automatically.

That one will be for sure a great day.

Right now what I also spotted is that in a few cases, a week after the approval, the newly added roads had an arrow to indicate that they are “one way” roads.

So the AI and the operators are not only confirming our edits, they also add some additional information.

There is a lot of work on the backstage

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To @ErmesT and @JustJake Tonight I found 3 of those needless very long diagonal roads going thru houses, trees etc. etc. submitted by someone else. I reported them as incorrect. Why do they do this?

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@TerryPG I have to think it’s just people goofing around because they found the ‘Update Road’ button on the App. Otherwise, why ruin an area? At least we can see these before they - Goog-forbid - get accepted. In places where I find those as accepted roads, I assume the satellite image wasn’t current when they drew the road in. Saves me the waste of mental energy on negative thoughts :innocent:

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Thanks @ErmesT for your valuable information. I have noticed while adding roads in my region. Google must add the feature “UNDO” the edit submitted by the user/editor. Once, I have accidently submitted a road edit which is wrong. Since last 2 weeks adding 10-20 road edits daily. Meanwhile, the approve rate is still less than 50%.

Regards

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Hi @HsRawal . 50% is not bad at all. Please keep in mind that an edit may be approved within 90 days. Even if most of the edits are approved quickly, several edits are approved after weeks. Here below a screenshot of my last 3 approved edits. As you can see they were submitted on April 4 (7 weeks ago), March 17 (11 Weeks ago), May 24 (4 days ago).

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Thanks @ErmesT I noticed this change when someone asked about the road editing he made and found the change in the road editor. It seems like this change has been made public. I agree with the four categories you mentioned, assuming the information is accurate, unfortunately, there is no “fact check” feature to help us verify the accuracy of the edits. We can only wait for the results whether the edit will be accepted or not

I’m not sure if editors will effectively receive notifications or changes in their edit status when someone reports their edit is inappropriate. In my personal opinion, it’s just one of the variables or ways to get feedback from other users and of course this method also has advantages and disadvantages

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Thanks for posting this @ErmesT . Good information from you, as usual. There’s so much to learn as we all seek to improve our drawing skills.

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